Quora in different languages

In spring I was looking something up and it led me to a Quora page, where I had to register in order to read the answer. I registered without the second thought. I don’t remember whether I set my languages or Quora guessed them, but since then it’s been sending me emails with question-answer complilations in English, Spanish and Italian.

Some of those questions were actually interesting, like about K-pop or how to deal with teenagers not wanting to take their hoodies off. If I saw something interesting I clicked on them and read it through. And only today I realised that it is actually a good reading practice for Italian and Spanish, since I don’t have much interaction in these languages nowadays, the Quora articles keep me entertained while at the same time maintaining the reading level.

I start to wonder – since I’ve never used Reddit, is it similar or is it more like a forum?

Lindie, Shunchan

Today I hopped on a livestream with Lindie Botes and got to hear her speak so many different languages at the same time, it was super inspiring as usual πŸ™‚ I even got a chance to tell her that I really love her channel and that I literally freaked out when I saw that she subscribed to my blog. Lindie, if you’re reading this – you made my day!

To be honest, I had a break from active language learning in June and I wasn’t updating this blog much, but now I feel ready to be back in the game. This week I had two important encounters – first one with an owner of a bingsu cafe here in Ljubljana, and second with a Chinese lady yesterday in Maribor. Since the beginning of the pandemic, I only practiced languages via devices, be it Skype. Zoom or Clubhouse. This week was the first time I got to speak Chinese with a real life person, and more than 2 years since my last Korean encounter, so it was super exciting to have a real life conversation πŸ™‚ I was so proud that I could speak to both of them without freezing or lagging much, and seeing their amazed reaction was especially satisfying.

I feel like my motivation to learn these two languages is now finally back, luckily the Indonesian course has now come to an end and so I have more mental resources to dedicate to them. I finished Indonesian course with a clear understanding of how I don’t wan’t to study – the traditional way of learning is just soo not for me.

Also, Shunchan just released a new video talking about Engish education in Japan and I found myself agreeing with everything he said. You can’t sign up to any class and except to learn the language by the end of it, you have to put in the extra work yourself. It is surprising that a lot of people don’t have such mindset and just expect to learn the language by passively showing to language classes few times a week and doing their homework. It doesn’t work that way πŸ™‚

Chinese upd

I think that from today on I’m going to stop revising my HSKK wordlist. I’ve been revising it for 70 days and I think I can recognize most of the words in context. To be honest, these 427 words are from HSK 3 and HSK 4 word lists, and I added them because I read somewhere that the HSKK Intermediate exam uses words from these lists, even though some of them are pretty obscure and rarely used in daily speech. And this is the main reason why I think just understanding them passively is enough and so there’s no need to spend more time on learning and revising them til I can actively reproduce them in conversation.

I have finally found a course for Chinese characters that I actually like – surprisingly, it was all the time right there at YoyoChinese website, I just haven’t seen it before because I was not interested in learning 汉字, but now, as I get more and more into them, I spent time looking and googling various options and just couldn’t find a comprehensive video course that taught characters using assosiations and mnemonics. And then I saw YoyoChinese and realised that it was exactly what I needed, so I purchased the course and have been studying with it for the past week πŸ™‚ I also purchased 3 of their comic books, they already arrived and I really like them! I don’t understand quite a lot, but hope to improve soon. I’m also using Duchinese to practice reading, so now I feel like I’m fully equipped and I can’t complain about lacking resources anymore. I set myself a deadline until end of summer to read these books without help of a dictionary, let’s see how it goes πŸ™‚

I passed HSKK Intermediate!

Even though it’s just 4 points above the pass score I’m still extremely happy that I managed to get to this level all within one year πŸ™‚

Now I’m thinking to retake the exam again in June and hopefully improve my score πŸ™‚

My language learning methods

A disclaimer: I’m not a linguist or a language geek, I just like to have the ability to speak different languages. I thin that self-learning is a skill that is always good to develop and which can come quite handy in all aspects of life. For example, you don’t need to go to music school in order to learn ukulele, so why can’t you do the same with other skills, such as languages, dancing, makeup? Having this mindset can really help us achieve anything that we set our minds on. There’s no real superpower or “language talent”, just a lot of hard work and dedication.

Below is a list of methods that I used with almost every language that I learned.

  1. SRS
  2. Audio courses that encourage speaking
  3. No school textbooks
  4. Grammar books
  5. No apps
  6. Language Parents
  7. Writing practice
  8. Lots of input
  9. Language Youtubers
  10. Language Learning books

1. SRS

No matter what I do, I have to complete my daily SRS streak. SRS stands for Space Repetition Program and it’s a program that works like flashcards, but you have to type or choose the correct answer. I love Memrise, but there are other programs, such as Anki. SRS is like a gym for memorising vocab and I can’t remember any new words if I don’t have them in my Memrise. I usually start with beginner courses that Memrise offers and as I make it to more advanced levels I start creating my own courses, where I throw all the new words I meet along the way – in conversations with native speakers, in online articles, in Instagram posts… I update my courses almost weekly and don’t know what I’d do without Memrise.

That said, I love using Memrise for Asian languages, but I felt bored using it for Spanish, maybe because so many words were so similar to English. In this case it is recommended to use flashcards with pictures on them instead of the translations.

2. Audio Courses

My favourites are courses by Michel Thomas, as they encourage speaking from the first minutes of you listening. So many classes and courses just teach how to read and write, but Michel Thomas gets you to speak right away. If it wasn’t for his Italian course, there was no way I would be able to start speaking Italian in 3 months. I also love that he avoids overwhelming learners with unnecessary vocab like big numbers or all the past tenses, and just sticks to what is really needed and used in daily conversation.

3. No school textbooks

I tried using them, I honestly tried, and they just drive me mad. Most of textbooks use such obscure vocabulary that is not necessary in daily conversation, obscure grammar rules, and on top of that a lot of them are pretty childish. “He is a pilot! She is a stewardess! I am a doctor!” Seriously? In 20th century? Who uses these words and constructions in daily conversation? No wonder students can never learn the language in school…. I think most school text books and the whole teaching system needs to be changed, but I’m not a teacher, just a self-learner, so I can just share my opinion online πŸ™‚

4. Grammar books

I love grammar books because they just give me a list and explanations of grammar points that I need to know for each level – A1, A2, B1 and so on, and I find them much more useful than school textbooks. I love my “Korean Grammar in use” series and my “Chinese Grammar Wiki” series. Maybe it’s because I liked Math in school, but I find it really motivating to read these books and check how many grammar points I already feel familiar with. On my height of Korean learning I used to read “Korean Grammar in use” on the beach, as well as in my bed before falling asleep.

5. No apps

I don’t like using apps for language learning because I prefer using my computer or books to learn. It’s not like they are bad, but I already spend so much of my time on my phone that I try to reduce it, not to increase it. I know that I might be missing out on some cool language learning apps, but I just prefer learning on desktop.

6. Language Parents

I wrote about this in more detail here. Basically, a language parent is a native speaker who listens to you, and then repeats back your broken sentences in a correct way. This way you are practicing speaking and at the same time learn how to say things correctly without feeling too overwhelmed (I hate when teachers pause the conversation and say “this is wrong, you should say “x and y”). It can be tough and embarrassing at first, but it gets easier with practice. Our italki tutors also write and send us the new words in chat as we speak and I add all the new words to my Memrise vocab lists afterwards. It doesn’t have to always be online. When I was learning Spanish I didn’t think of using italki so I found an Argentinian here in Ljubljana who agreed to help me out and talked to me regularly for a few weeks. That really helped my progress and I think together with SRS this is probably one of the most powerful methods that I use. Here I wrote about how to find people to talk to online.

7. Writing practice

I used to do this a lot when learning Korean and Spanish, but I don’t do it so much these days, because nowadays my focus is on Chinese, which I’m learning just speaking and not writing, however, it is still a very good method. There are websites like lang-8 and italki where you can post your writing and get corrections from native speakers. Just last week I posted a short text in Korean and was honestly surprised at the corrections that I received. I honestly thought I wrote everything pretty much correctly πŸ™‚ The websites are free and in exchange you can also test your native language and correct other people’s writing. I sometimes felt it was a good practice as well, when I was correcting Korean or Spanish speakers writing in English, especially when they provided the native version. Back in school, we had to write something, submit it to the teacher and wait for their corrections. Now you can receive them online for free and no strings attached. I love it.

9. Lots of input

I vary my input depending on the language, but it almost always included TV shows with subtitles or podcasts. TV shows and series really help me get the rhythm of the language, colloquial expressions, mannerisms. I love watching Chinese TV series, they are so addictive and I learned so much Chinese from them. When I try to read I usually start with something simple like comic books, then I move onto magazines, then to books. Of course, it is much easier to read a book in Spanish than in Korean (I still have some Korean books that I can’t read at all, so I still have a long way to go). If you’re just starting out and can’t consume native level books you can try graded readers that were created to give readers the content in their target language on different levels, from beginner to advanced. I am currently learning Chinese so I signed up for Duchinese, what I like is that their newbie stories really have only the most common words and characters and there’s also an audio version that you can listen to while you read.

9. Language Youtubers

I watch them for inspiration, and there are some, for example Lindie Botes, who share their study routines, tips and much more. When I don’t feel inspired to study I just go to Lindie’s channel, check some of her latest videos and see if there are any methods or tips that I can apply in my own learning. I also really enjoy the feeling of knowing that I’m not alone and that there’s a whole language learning community, who get together for Polyglot conferences and gatherings.

10. Language learning books

Yes, there are books not about learning just one language, but about learning languages in general. I have two – “Fluent Forever” by Gabriel Wyner and ” How to speak any language fluently” by Alex Rawlings. To be honest, neither of these books was an amazing revelation for me because I was already using most of the methods in those books, but they inspired and motivated me a lot and I think they would be a great asset to someone just starting out on this journey.

And that’s it folks! There’s really no secret sauce or superpower in language learning, just completely different methods to what we were taught in school. Anyone can do it πŸ™‚

HSKK Intermediate test experience

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So yesterday was the day of the test! To be honest, I was studying so much vocab during the past few weeks that I felt like my brain could not take any new words any longer, so the day before the test and actual day of the test I took it really easy and revised very little.

On Skype sessions with our tutors I’ve noticed that being tired really affected how I was speaking, so I gave preference to rest over knowledge.

On the day of the exam my husband wanted to cook meat for me, but I asked him not to because I thought that meat can make me sleepy. The exam was on Saturday at 16:30, so during the day I mostly chilled, we also went for a short bike ride, it was nice to get some fresh air and sun outside.

I had vegan spinach ravioli for lunch, getting my dose of slow carbs and proteins. One hour before the exam I brewed some strong Earl Grey tea and started sipping on it. Twenty minutes before the exam I had one chocolate to boost my alertness. Then the exam started.

Since it was a “Home-edition” I was doing it by myself, with my phone logged in on a Zoom call so that it could be seen what I was doing. I could have potentially written some notes and hid them somewhere where it could not be seen on camera but I was a good girl and didn’t prepare anything.

The first section was repeating sentences after the audio, I felt that it was harder than some mock tests, but maybe it felt this way because I was more nervous than usual. In any case, I tried my best.

Second and third sections were where I was supposed to describe 2 images and answer to 2 questions, 2 minutes per each section, all together 8 minutes of non-stop talking. I had 10 minutes to prepare, and there was a box on my computer to take notes, BUT it was only in hanzi (chinese characters) and so I could not take any actual notes because my focus all this time was on learning vocab via romanized pinyin system only. I wrote some words there just to outline what I was going to talk about, but when I started talking I didn’t even look at those notes and went complete freestyle.

The first image was of a woman at her desktop, so I told her story, that she works in Huawei, where the pressure is very high and I hope that she gets some rest soon, because work burnout is very bad. I also mentioned 996 work culture in China and said that it’s not very healthy.

Second image was of a little girls at the ballet class. I told the story of a little girl who doesn’t like to dance but has to learn it because her mom forces her to. Then I switched to my own experience and said that I wished I learned dancing when I was young because now I’m really into Douyin and TikTok and I wish I started learning earlier so I would be a better dancer now.

Then came the questions. The first one was about cell phones – “Imagine your life without mobile phone, would you be able to survive?” I started talking that in the past I used cell phone all the time because I was constantly on business trips, but now because of the pandemic we’re mostly stuck at home so I started using my laptop more than my phone. However, I still use my phone for Douyin and TikTok a lot and I really enjoy these programs, since they help me learn Chinese and get to know other cultures.

I’m still not sure if I got the second question right, I hope I did. I think it went something like “A lot of people want to travel the world, so they give up their job in order to travel. What’s your take on this?” I started to say that a lot of people fantasize travel lifestyle, but actually it’s very hard to travel non-stop, in the past I lived the life of constant travels and it was a lot of pressure, I constantly felt tired and anxious. So I think that travelling is fine, but it should be moderately, since too much of it can make us unhappy. Then I continued to say that because of the pandemic I was able to study Chinese and get to know Chinese culture and Chinese geography, so now I have a list of places in China where I want to go after the pandemic ends. To be honest I’m not 100% satisfied with my answer, it could’ve been better structured and I felt like I was lacking some important vocab, but at this point I was talking non-stop for 6 minutes.

After the test I felt like a huge burden fell off my shoulders! Now I can finally get back to my normal lifestyle and stop concentrating all my efforts on the exam πŸ™‚

HSKK preparation

Wow, my Memrise score reached 14 million points, that’s crazy!

Recently I’ve created an HSKK Intermediate Prep course with the words from HSK3 and HSK4 that I still haven’t memorised in order to prepare to HSKK. In one week I’m at about 70 words. But to be honest, when I was doing mock tests this weekend, I still met some words that were not in these word lists, so I guess I will just have to hope for the best. This is the beauty of oral test – there’s no set of rules or word list that you need to learn in order to be ready for it.

Yesterday I practiced a mock exam by myself, I think it was ok, especially because the last 2 questions were easy to understand. I hope to get questions like this on the actual exam πŸ™‚ I also realised that I like doing HSKK mock exams, because they are quite short, just 23 minutes, and they force me to try my best to speak without mistakes and in the best possible way, and I can really feel which words I’m lacking to fully express what I want to say. During my language exchanges I just blurt what I want to say, without caring too much about the grammar, my main goal is to break the language barrier, but with HSKK you need structure, grammar points, vocabulary. So I’m glad that I decided to sign up for this test, I can already feel a big difference. Sometimes I get scared of the difficulty and worry that maybe I will fail. But then I tell myself that maybe it will be ok to fail because the exam fee is not that high, there’s another exam in 3 months (in June), and preparing for the exam is really motivating and pushing me to study harder, so maybe that’s a good thing if I fail and have to practice for 3 months more πŸ™‚

I also noticed that I concentrate better when I study by myself, I signed up for HSKK exam just by myself, my husband hasn’t, so he’s not preparing for it as hard as me. That said, he’s already learning the HSK3 and HSK4 word lists with me, so it seems like he also wants to pass it at some point in future πŸ™‚

This week is going to be a little tough, I’ve scheduled 5 hours of Skype calls with 4 different Chinese tutors throughout the week, let’s see how I’ll hold up πŸ™‚ On top of that, I decided to not completely stop with Korean language exchange, but just reduce it from 4 x 1-hour calls to 4 x 30 minute calls. A lot of calls this week πŸ™‚ The exam is on 13th March, so I have to work really hard on the preparation until then.